Archeologia della storia privata e rielaborazione filmica
 
 

 


Incontro con Péter Forgács (Bologna, 17 maggio 2004), lezione che conclude il laboratorio audiovisivo e la rassegna a lui dedicati.


Il testo della conferenza in inglese


I’m trying to introduce how I’m working and what I do as a kind of introduction of this visual archaeology.
It’s really on the borderline of art and social history, or psychological history, it’s a kind of, even I can say, anthropological art.
The question why the source material is home movie; I am organizing a little foundation called “Private photo and film archive” in Budapest since twenty-one years and this collection is the base of my work and the target and the source material as well.
It’s a bit like a schizophrenic state of mind to observe home movies as an anthropologist and also as a recycling artist, but first of all I started to talk about and I would like to explain more what is the difference between cinema and home movie.
Any directed, composed documentary, or more, fiction film is planned in a very certain way and made from public or private money. So there is the alter world which defines the medium, the film and is essentially aimed for a wider public; but as for the home movie, the amateur film, it is aimed to a smaller public which is not even a public it’s the family or the private surrounding of the film-maker, so immediately we have this distinction between private history and public history.
Before going a little bit deeper to that, we have to understand what is the word “amateur”, it comes from “amato”, “love”, the one who makes things for loving it, or doing it for loving the object, so the amateur is the one who does it for loving it.
Second thing what we have to distinguish, is the diary character of the home movie, it’s a diary format; maybe it’s sounds too simple but if I would write my diary, this evening while going back to Rome, I will write, we were in a black room which was funny because it was not deep but it was a kind of long room, and there were approximately 58, no 79, no 86 persons in the room, and then I stop writing, because unfortunately I cannot count you, but if I would take a camera and I would make a video I could count you easily and from that recording I could look at your faces later on.
More to that, I could look at your faces what I cannot describe because I’m not a good writer or not a good poet, and I say: “oh what a wonderful smile” or “that jacket”, so the gestures, the faces, the mimic, all those things which are hard to verbalize or write it down, if one is not a poet, are documented.
So the limits of the written diary, or let’s say the advantages also, because without the written diaries we would be much poorer, thinking of beautiful diaries of important poets or writers or historians or just persons, but the film, the visual print of the existing moment, is able to conserve something, have the print of the time.
But we have to concentrate on the pre-television and pre-video era, that was a completely different period of visual documentation because the film, one roll of film, a three minute roll of film costed in Hungary, before the war, 2 and the half pengő, that is equals to about 7 dollars, and that was expensive, so if somebody would like to record one wedding in the family he had to decide what to concentrate on that three minutes, in comparison of a today’s video-cameras which is as long as the whole marriage even.
And more to that there is another distinction, that if one films for a longer period, then so many things are documented from the linear time of his or her own time, that suddenly a collective diary of that person appears as an interesting concentration of the passing of the times.
While an amateur filmmaker push the button and then records a certain sequence and then stops it, and then he repeats it let’s say every sunday, and then after forty years we have a numbers of sundays, 10.000 sundays or what’s the number, then it’s all stick together to one big roll and then it is a diary of sundays and that means that certain slices from the continous time, we have, like in a dream, sequences but they’re stick together in a very funny or interesting associative line.
If we see a film of this banal sundays, they’re boring, I mean it’s all about happiness and in my archivist experience I haven’t seen one divorce on amateur film, but I’ve seen 200 marriages, as if only happy life would exist. If someone would come from the Mars, and check out this amateur films, and would like to understand human culture from this banal moments, then this martian, this alien would think that human life is eternal, and is always happy.
But this is our human fight against the notion of death, we must suppress the feeling, the knowledge, the experience of death, because otherwise it won’t be worth to wake up in the morning, or do things because we will die, and I’m not lying to you but there will be one day that nobody in this room will be alive but our prints, our images, our voices will be kept, somewhere, in albums, tapes and that is something, the wishful thinking of the amateur filmmaker eternity: banality and eternity.
If we compare for a second with the fiction film, in the fiction film only the role dies, not the hero, so Humphrey Bogart is killed on the screen but he didn’t die, we know that he is playing. But if we see a funeral on an amateur film we know that they are dead, and this distinction is crucial in the problem - next step - what is memory?
Our memory is very selective, very selective and sometimes contradicts to our documents, for example if I would take out a photograph of myself, thirty years ago with my girlfriend, we broke up long time ago, but I show you the photograph, where you see us that were beautiful young and happy, I have long red curly hair, and she is blonde and we are full mouth laughing and I say “yeah it’s, it’s us”, and you look at me and say “but why are you talking about this way?” And then I say “oh, we were always unhappy”, then you say “but you’re laughing on the image“, “but I never liked her” I say, “but here is the document - you say - it’s proved on this photograph that you were happy”. So I’m re-contextualizing my own photograph, my own memory, my own history, I’m re-writing my personal biography, this is the flexibility of human being.
But also we can observe, on home movies, on photographs, this contradiction which is a part of human, let’s say, reconciliation and the problems of memory; but with memory we have another very important field which is the trauma, which can be a personal or historic trauma and this is suppressed, of course it’s hard to talk about if I’m raped, I would never talk about those who raped me, and this is victimology but in victimology you can observe how our memory is working or I forget when I am in a car accident and I don’t remember at all what happened, just I remember clearly what was before but I don’t know how I’d crashed; this is the problems of trauma that is facing the image, the document which is telling you something what you have forgotten or we have forgotten and this is the duality of private and public history.
At this point we reach the question of what is the archive and how archive are working; when the archives had been established in the history of Europe, what kind of archives were the first archives? What kind of museums were the first museums? Would we consider museums of the eighteen century today as a museum? Or what are the new museum trying to sell to us? In this context I have to refer again to the problems of the trauma through a nice book which was written by Roland Barthes, Camera Lucida (trad. it. La camera chiara) that is referring to photograph in a kind of punctum, so the point is: at this point we are fixated; and Roland Barthes talks about a beautiful photograph that no one have ever seen apart from himself, which is a photograph of his own mother when she was thirteen; this is crucial, crucial for us because Roland Barthes is dealing with the problems of memory “how would I like to remember to my mother?” so his difficult and complex memory to his own mother, and also the pictures is under taboo, it’s not for the public; but is also about the complexity of one second, or part of a second, when his mother was in the garden in the small bridge walk through; is that photograph representing Roland Barthes mother? Can we say that? He says yes, but in a moving image it’s not one second but is vitality, so if the photographer who made the picture of Roland Barthes mother would have had a film camera, then we would see a little girl walking; so the photograph is a tombstone, that we can put in cemetery, on my tomb, but the film is also something what I would consider life, because it’s animated, it’s moving and it is the animal that is moving, or animus in junghian way, that is moving and it never dies, so the amateur film were the film: filmic representation is eternal.
I try to be as short as possible, to really go into the practical showing of some extarcts of “Free Fall” (Caduta libera – Il vortice) or “Angelos’ film”, but this is a turning point when we think again about Barthes problem of representation.
Because representation is always re-contextualization, when I said I take this photograph of my own family album, this imaginary photograph, I re-contextualize it immediately when I show it to you in this context, and from this point I shift from the archeologist to the artistic approach.
The reason is purely technical, because the archeologist digs up the archeological site, in my case the photograph or the film, and tries to replace it or adjust it with the historical facts, so making an interview with the family, collecting other documents of the family, putting it in the right context in his extensive full format.
Let’s take a huge, a larger family collection, that with I started the Private Hungary series, “The Bartos Family”, Mr. Bartos filmed about 5/6 hours of films, and in the final one hour epic, I used only 50 minutes; that means that I was selecting to find the best way of re-representing something, re-contextualizing something, re-editing, re-composing something, so that’s why I say it’s a technical difference.
It doesn’t mean that I give up the archeologist implications, and motivation, just that the 5 hours are boring, boring and we don’t learn from that; and by re-editing, re-composing so many years after the original footage means that this re-reading, this re-contextualizing places somewhere else this footage.
As I spoke about the spontaneous film library and as I spoke about the memory, we can say that first of all making re-making re-composing something from a found footage collection it means that today we have a first viewpoint that is the contemporary viewpoint, is art viewpoint; the second is the time which was recorded by the film-maker, that is a moving episode, so in the case of Bartos 1929-1959, and also the time of his personal time, individual, private time, what was his personal view to record this and do not record that.
Going a little bit further on, when I spoke about trauma I also spoke about the taboos like not having recorded of course wife beating or killing cats, but we know this exist just as like in psychoanalysis we follow our own hidden and suppressed personal archaeology, we feel from a home movie set the lack of certain things, which show the side, and prints of taboo.
The first example I will show to you, is this “Free Fall” (trad. lett. Caduta libera), it’s hungarian jewish family, filming mr. Peto’s footage, I will show only 10 minutes of the first part, to show you a little example of the contradiction between banality of the private history and the banality of the public history.
In this case I was really shocked that this family which was under very strong and heavy danger from 1938, the beginning of the hungarian jewish laws, they were filming themselves until 1944, only the happy moment, so if I would understand and have to learn the story of this family only and solely from the film footage then I would not understand which years this have been. So the contradiction was how to represent the danger, their life is in danger in Hungary, because of the Nazi era, because of the Nazi influence, and they are showing their most happy life in their amateur films.
I was really challenged how to solve this serious contradiction, and this is the point where the anthropologist turns to artistic solutions, and suddenly when I was trying to edit the material I started to hear the jewish laws as I was reading a lot the hungarian holocaust history, and there I understood from a first class history book from Randolph Braham (Randolph L. Braham, The politics of genocide – The Holocaust in Hungary, New York - Columbia University Press 1994) an american historian, that the laws were extremely important, so in the film suddenly you hear the laws but they are recited, in recitativo, so like angels’ voice, as the law is coming from far away, from up, and it’s not directly connected to your daily life, because in the film it is not shown that you are under a threat, your life is under the threat. This is the point where the public history and the private history, these two roads are crossing, each one, and reflects one to the other, contrast them, and shows that even banality have the power, in certain re-contextualized form, to show the love of life and the enigmatic danger that is present but suppressed.

PROIEZIONE DI SPEZZONE DI FREE FALL

The next film I would like to show is “Angelos’ film”. “Angelos’ film” is a great story and also a quite wealthy man’s home movie. That is interesting because of course for the Nazi jewish laws it didn’t really count whether one was rich or poor, young or old, talented or idiot, but it just as a racial law, the only importance was that jew or considered as a jew.
But in the antisemitic ideal, the jew is the rich, talented and moneymaker, so I really loved this family footage because it is showing someone who is designed for a kind of antisemite poster, in Hungary.
The more problematic with Angelos Papanastassiou is that Angelos Papanastassiou is loyalist, maire of the city Pireo under Metaxas the dictator, and not a communist partisan under the second world war; so the question is wheter a non-communist, rich, pro-Metaxas person can be a patriot; what is the definition of patriot? Can a conservative person be a patriot, a true patriot, not nationalist, not fascist, but really patriot? My question was to myself, coming from the radical left in the 1970’s, whether how one should re-read history through a personal approach, being just and righteous to the past.
So it was a provocation to my mind and it’s still a provocation for the greek public, because none of the greek public televisions bought this film though they saw it in Thessaloniki festival and other festivals, because it‘s a problem for contemporary greeks, where the majority thinks that second world war and the bloody civil war that followed the second world war, which lasted from december 1944 until september 1949, that no one from the other side could be a patriot against the Nazis, and more to that, his personality have some unanswered points because he used his film camera, clandestine camera, secretly in certain situations and openly in other circumstances, and this pose the question when he filmed: why he filmed and how he filmed.
Finally, I try to complete a work without being a judge but presenting to you saying: here is Papanastassiou beside me, we’re sitting together, and you are my other side and the composer of course, and the daughter of Papanastassiou here, and we show you something to cross-questioned, we show you something without being moralistic and we show you something without letting free our political animal, because it is more important to understand one than to judge it by playing and simplifying motives.
If it’s true on the greek resistance, the anti-Nazi and the anti-greek fascist resistance that they could fight because they didn’t had to lose anything else, just - with the classical marxian word - “only their chains”, what is the motivation of a rich, wealthy man, who can live in complete secure, who can live under occupation in complete security, to risk his own life by recording and documenting the Nazi atrocities; and these are the questions, which are very important for me, where this terrain of my job, as an archaeologist and a film-maker, come together in one frame, and this is the, let’s say, this is the present I brought to you tonight.

PROIEZIONE DI ANGELOS’ FILM

FINE LEZIONE

 

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